USE OF AFTERMARKET COMPONENTS WITH A CCF RACEFRAME®
First – it’s important to keep in mind that a Glock® is designed and built to extremely loose tolerances as it’s primarily a battle gun, and those loose tolerances are necessary for reliability in hostile environments. Combining those loose tolerances with a flexible plastic frame, a Glock® will run with a wide range of dimensionally out of spec aftermarket components – even when those components are destructive to the pistol. Because of the frame’s flex, the destructive forces are lessened somewhat, but destructive forces are exactly that, destructive. They will simply take longer to demonstrate themselves in the way of a failure, sometimes catastrophic.
We have found the aftermarket component tolerances span an alarming range, even from the same manufacturer. Because of the Glock’s® loose tolerance design and it’s ability to run or appear to run fine with any number of dimensionally wide ranging components, aftermarket manufacturers have not had to discipline their components build quality to the dimensional tolerances the CCF RaceFrame® requires.
A user has to think of our CCF RaceFrame® as a “STI”® frame that has been built specific to one manufacturer’s components, ie specific to Glock® slides & barrels. You wouldn’t drop in a “mixed” set of aftermarket components into an STI® frame without having a qualified gunsmith fit them. Using components other than or original Glock® or CCF RaceFrames® components in a CCF RaceFrame® without proper fitting will result in functionality issues and very possibly a catastrophic frame failure.
The below linked barrel FAQ item demonstrates one example of how far out of tolerance aftermarket components can run and can induce a frame failure even when described as “drop in” or “drop on” by their manufacturer. Click on the link for more detail - aftermarket slides are no different. http://www.ccfraceframes.com/faq-barrels.html
Do I send in my original frame?
- Do I send in my original frame for exchange and can you engrave the original Glock® serial number on my new frame?
No, you keep your frame, as the new frame is a replacement frame, and we cannot engrave the new CCF RaceFrame® with your original serial number. The fact that you keep your original frame is one of the advantages of our replacement frame. As you haven't modified your original Glock® frame, at resale, your original Glock® is still in it's original condition and you will recover more of your original purchase price.
Will your frames fit a small handed shooter?
- Will your frames fit a small handed shooter? I have a G22 and find the grip to large for me to comfortably reach the trigger.
The CCF RaceFrame® will fit smaller hands better, even with the standard rear (original Glock® configuration) grip strap as the thumbrest shelves both go forward and their channels turn the front corner of the grip, shortening effective trigger reach circumference. Additionally, the upsweep or rake to the beavertail has been angled more steeply or radically, which effectively also reduces trigger reach circumference. The addition of the 1911 rear grip strap makes the grip considerably smaller and improves ergonomics for both small and large handed shooters (as well as providing the much sought after 1911 grip angle for target acquisition).
What frame colors are offered?
- What frame colors are available?
In aluminum, the frames will be offered in Charcoal Gray. Stainless will only be offered in a satin stainless steel finish.
Will your frame still Holster?
- Will your frame still Holster in my Glock’s® original holster?
Yes, the frame dimensions are all identical with the only external difference in the holstered portion being the rounded trigger guard.
What accessories from my Glock® are still useable or will still mount
- What accessories from my Glock® are still useable or will still mount on the CCF RaceFrame®?
All your original Glock® manufactured accessories will mount on the new CCF RaceFrame® with one exception: the original Glock® flashlight will not, as it is for a “Universal” rail while your new CCF RaceFrame® conforms to the Picatinny specification. This statement only applies to original Glock® accessories. Aftermarket accessories are addressed in FAQ #14 & #19 – PLEASE REVIEW before installing any aftermarket items in your CCF RaceFrame®.
WHAT PARTS COME WITH THE CCF RaceFrame®?
- What parts come with the frame, are they already complete and ready for me to put my slide & barrel assembly on?
Our frames are supplied with a new lock block & pins already precision fitted and a new takedown lever spring, otherwise you will need all the components from your Glock's® frame to move to the CCF Frame. The lockblock has been permanently bonded into the frame on the stainless frames, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REMOVE IT as it will damage your frame. On the aluminum frames they have not, but if you own more than one aluminum frame, DO NOT INTERCHANGE THE LOCK BLOCKS – they have been engraved with the last 3 digits of that frame’s serial number, and do not attempt to substitute the lockblock from an original glock. The cross pins will still push out for firearm assembly/dis-assembly but do not attempt to use original Glock® lock block pins as they are a different diameter from the CCF RaceFrame pins and their use can / will damage your frame. The CCF lock block was bored after being installed into the frame & both frame and lock block are cross bored at the same time, resulting in an exact fit with the lock block fully seated in it's pocket. The addition of being permanently bonded into your frame eliminates all free play or movement of the lock block, which helps insure the most precise trigger action for your CCF RaceFrame®.
What will be different about the assembly procedure?
- What will be different about the assembly procedure with the CCF RaceFrames®?
First, and only difference on all of our frames, when mounting the slide to the frame, the takedown lever will have to be held down for the slide to transit past it.
Shipping the Frames
- Does the frame have to be shipped to my dealer or can you ship them directly to the customer?
As the frame is considered the firearm, per ATF regs, they are serialized and will have to be transferred to the customer through a FFL holder (dealer).
G19 & G23 Frames
- Will you be offering replacement metal frames for the Glock® G19 & G23 models?
No, not at this time.
G20 & G21 Frames
- Do you have any plans to offer a frame for the G21 or G20 models?
We are studying the G21 market, but if we do decide to enter it, it is doubtful we will be able to justify the validation testing program necessary for the G20 10MM round.
G26, G27, G30, G36 Frames
- Do you offer or will you offer a frame for my G26, G27, G30, G36 or any of the sub-compacts?
At this time, we have NO PLANS to offer frames for any of the sub-compact models, such as the G26, G27, G30 or G36.
G38 & G39 Frames
- Do you offer a frame for the G38 or G39 models?
No, not at this time and we currently have no plans to offer a frame for the G38 or G39 models.
Fitting of parts
- Will the parts from my pistol have to be fitted?
While original Glock® components are a "drop in" fit, WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND the installation of the components into the new replacement frame be performed by a certified & qualified Glock® armourer. All safety & functionality inspections MUST be performed by a certified Glock® armourer, as would be the case anytime you are re-assembling a pistol frame. Folks, please don't take shortcuts on this for the sake of convenience.
- Do I purchase this replacement frame direct or does my dealer have to order it?
We are accepting orders direct from end user customers as well as dealers. As the frame is considered to be the actual firearm by ATF, shipment will have to go to a FFL holder (dealer). In the near future we will have distributors setup and orders will have to go through a dealer.
- Can I use any of the speciality calibers, such as the .400 Corbon, the .460 Atomix, etc?
NO, and that is a resounding NO! We specifically do not recommend the use of ANY speciality calibers, whether SAAMI or NON-SAAMI spec'd. We have performed validation testing in the standard calibers Glock® offers the models for which we offer replacement frames. Use of a non-standard or speciality caliber can result in damage to your frame or HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES TO THE USER.
Custom built frames
- Can you build me a G17 (or substitute whatever model you wish) with a shortened grip, to the length of the G19/23 frame's grip?
NO. The tooling to cast these frames is extremely expensive, and specialized, "mix and match" configurations are prohibitively costly.
Custom Serial numbers
- Can you make a frame with a custom serial number or possibly match the serial number on my existing Glock® pistol?
As to custom serial numbers, I'm afraid that would be too burdensome on the production process, so we will not be offering custom serial numbers. This is also the reason we will not offer serial numbers replicating your existing pistol's serial number.
USE with other aftermarket components, slides, etc
- Will your frame work with my "fill in blank" mfrg'd aftermarket slide?
While we do not support the use of any non-Glock® or aftermarket components, we realize there is a large aftermarket selection of quality components available. We have studied the quality control & tolerances of the Glock® pistols and have built this frame to improve those standards. One example lies in the area of the CCF RaceFrame’s® lock block vs the Glock® original lock block. We have machined it to precisely fit the frame
to eliminate any free play which results in play in the trigger action. We also machined the bridge on the lock block slightly taller than the original Glock® block, to help the barrel lock up tighter which gives the firearm tighter groups.
A number of aftermarket makers, looking for the same resulting greater accuracy, cut their barrels’ lugs slightly oversized to achieve the same tighter lockup as our raised lock block bridge. However, combining the aftermarket barrel with our lock block, without proper fitting and clearance confirmation, can easily cause your barrel to shear a lug or damage the lock block in your frame! That aftermarket barrel, just because it functioned with your Glock® frame, does not mean it will in your CCF RaceFrame®. It could easily cause damage to your new frame over a period of time or a number of shots. If uncertain, DO NOT USE IT WITHOUT HAVING SOMEONE QUALIFIED TO CONFIRM IT’S FIT! Click here to view details of an improperly fitted barrel compared to useage of an original Glock® barrel.
METAL RECOIL RODS – we strongly recommend against the use of any metal recoil rod, including those containing a laser aiming device. Your original Glock® recoil guide rod was fabricated from plastic because of it’s ability to flex – a non-flexing recoil rod will affect the harmonics of the slide’s cycling and will damage your frame! If you need to tune the recoil spring rate for faster cycling, etc, your original Glock® rod can be used, simply remove the capture plug at the front end, and use the rod with your new spring uncaptured (we will be releasing a capitive polymer guide rod soon). A metal recoil guide rod, will bounce repeatedly, into the bottom of the dust cover in the area of the channel where the slide lock bar spring (aka takedown bar spring) resides, and peen the edges of the channel inward limiting how high that spring can return, until it cannot raise the slide lock bar high enough to engage the slide. The results are shown in the below photo – how that slide did not launch downrange…..
WHY NOT TO USE A METAL RECOIL GUIDE ROD
Refinishing my aluminum frame
- Is there any problem with my gunsmith refinishing one of your aluminum frames to put a camo or other color finish on it?
We strongly recommend you DO NOT REMOVE OR STRIP the finish on the aluminum frame. And even more strongly caution you to not use a finish that requires any heat involved in it's finish process. A number of spray or wet coat finishes, such as Duracoat, are very durable & are fine, applied directly onto the anodized finished your frame is supplied with and in fact the existing anodized finish serves as an excellent primer surface for most if not all of the wet coat finishes. The stainless frames will, however, accept any finish your gunsmith chooses to use.
Are the Stainless RaceFrames corrosion proof?
- Are the stainless raceframes truly rustproof?
No. Heat treatable stainless steels are rust resistant, not rust proof. To protect your gun against corrosion, use the same care that you would use with a blued weapon. Lightly wipe it down with good gun oil. We use Eezox Premium Gun Care.